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Issues of inclusion v exclusion in Auroville

Author: Rod

Last Activity: May 19, 2011

 Has anyone noticed the pattern of concerns expressed  recently by the International Advisory council? They said, among other things,  that they were concerned about issues in Auroville such as “class divisions  including differentiation by income”, signs that there are “social justice  problems in Auroville”, the need to “promote the maximum social and cultural  interaction among Aurovilians”, the hope that “some Tamil Aurovilians will  be found who have skills which are required  and that social scientists will be included in the Land Consolidation  Committee”; that the “entry process is too restrictive, and could be made more  flexible”; that they hope a solution of the funding issues of New Era Secondary  School will be “inclusive and conducted in the spirit of Auroville.”

 Has anyone noticed the concerns expressed at the first  general meeting of the Selection Process for the new Working Committee and AV  Council: that the RAS has not fulfilled its purpose of communication and  information between the RA and WC-AVC, that the WC has not reported regularly  and taken feedback from the community, that the members need to be changed now  and by a more representative process? And yet, a week after the GB meeting a  follow-up meeting of the Selection Process has still not happened?  

 Has anyone noticed the long list of contentious problems and  the “tortuous process” reported by the AVC last week, concerning the behavior  of Aurovilians which is not acceptable, and which in a normal society would be  illegal. When issues of illegality cannot be handled adequately by an  alternative process, and when issues of social and cultural disharmony cannot  be resolved by a community dedicated to Human Unity, do we not see that all is  not well in the city of the future? And when the WC insists in its  self-assessment that its mission for the past two years has been to exclude  outside interference in the decision making process and to ensure that all  decisions are “only ours”, does it not occur to us that a place which belongs  to nobody in particular might actually require a much larger sense of  inclusion, and outreach, and openness than is possible to such a meager  representation of humanity? Do we wish to simply ignore all of this?   

Rod

         

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commented by philippe on May 11, 2011

Dear Rod,

The question does not consist in having noticed any dysfunction in AV and to wish or not to wish to ignore them.

The ignorance by which AV is dramatically touched
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replied by Rod on May 15, 2011 (in reply to philippe's comment)

Phillipe - This is Rod responding on Robert's computer, for technical reasons.
I see what you are talking about, and am aware of the occult point of view or explanation of things. But I prefer
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replied by philippe on May 19, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

I do not think it is wise in a place like av to prefer the philosophical approach ; as for myself the only preference I would have is the total abolishment of the prefering capacity because
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replied by Rod on May 15, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Standing on the head of reason is Adwaita. I don't think the law of parsimony gets that far at all and probably has little to do with spirituality; something like the idea can probably be found in
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replied by Vrinda Estela Pujals on May 15, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)


Rod, isn´t the Occam´s razor  a  western appropriation
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replied by Keka Chakraborty on May 15, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Rod,
Here is a paragraph from Mother's "On Thoughts and Aphorisms":

"For a very long time in life, until one possesses anything resembling Knowledge, it is
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replied by Vladimir on May 15, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Good points, Rod.

Yes, it is important while ‘trying to be spiritual’ to remain also human and rational at the same time not changing
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commented by Vrinda Estela Pujals on May 5, 2011

Dear Rod,

The points that you  make are sadly important, but cannot be ignored.
We ignore insularism, isolation at the peril of embodying the essence of the
teachings of
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replied by Rod on May 8, 2011 (in reply to Vrinda Estela Pujals 's comment)

In response to one of your earlier questions, I think that Sanjukta Gupta is one of the best interpreters of Hinduism working in academia, and in the US today Robert Thurman in Buddhism. In India,
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replied by Rod on May 5, 2011 (in reply to Vrinda Estela Pujals 's comment)

Nmaste. Savitri is yogatantra. There is not much to say that is more important.
When we started to put our courses on line we had in mind the students of CIIS. I have met with Joe Subiando about
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replied by Vrinda Estela Pujals on May 7, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Rod,
Sorry to see that perhaps too much intellectualism may come in the way of practical solutions. Knowing the language, or the mathematical formulas does not mean that we can swim--as the
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replied by Vrinda Estela Pujals on May 6, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)


om namo bhagavate sri miramabikaye

It is an honor to correspond with you. How wonderful that you met Haridas Chaudhuri, and what a
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replied by Vrinda Estela Pujals on May 5, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Namaste! In the past there has been a very positive willingness from both, entities as well as scholars from Auroville and CIIS to connect. I am glad to hear about the reciprocal connections with
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commented by Rod on May 5, 2011

One of the main problems, it seems to me, is many people's inability to think properly and to use language properly, and also a lack of training in subjects such as sociology and political science.
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replied by Keka Chakraborty on May 6, 2011 (in reply to Rod's comment)

Without knowing anything about Auroville's politics - just wanted to share my thought about the language, inability etc. There might be another major factor that is lack of will or even bad will.
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replied by Keka Chakraborty on May 6, 2011 (in reply to Keka Chakraborty's comment)

Because that hidden cause is part of a greater algorithm, otherwise it would not be there. And because the obvious is not always so obvious unfortunately.

Unless
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replied by Rod on May 6, 2011 (in reply to Keka Chakraborty's comment)

That sounds a bit like "conspiracy theory" to me. Of course there are negative forces that can use assets or the lack thereof, just as there are positive forces that use both. But this doesn't
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commented by Kirti Hemsell on May 5, 2011

Well said. Of course, the groups mentioned (WC, AVC, GB) feel threatened by such an overt and open asking of questions, which should always be asked in a free society, but more so in a
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commented by Oli on May 4, 2011

Dear Rod, YES I have noticed .... but I am not in any position yet to make bold comments and I am not politician. I agree it is very concerning.